Podcast episode
March 9, 2022
Episode 136: The ‘Greater Kinds’, Souls, and Kosmos: Iamblichus’ Philosophy, Part II
Between the noetic triad and the triad of Soul, Iamblichus places the Greater Kinds, a hierarchy of archangels, angels, heroes, daimones, and several types of archōn. We explore this densely-populated divine bestiary – with discussion of what these entities look like when summoned to visible appearance – and discuss Iamblichus’ distinctive doctrines of the human soul and of matter.
Works Cited in this Episode:
Primary:
Iamblichus:
- On the various divine hierarchies: De myst. II.1-4.
- The third hypothesis of the Parmenides refers to the ‘Greater Kinds’, not to soul: In Parm. fr. 2.
- Three types of sublunary daimones: Lydus De mens. 83.13ff.
- The Greater Kinds impassible: De myst. I.10. Cf. I.8: they rule their bodies from outside, rather than being enveloped in their bodies, as we humans are.
- The archons as planetary κοσμοκρατορες: cf. De myst. IX.9.284.3-7; Damascius, In Parm. 131.9.15 ff.
Evil daimones: II.7.84; cf. III.31.178; X.7.293. - The ochēma spherical, imitating the motion of Nous: In Tim. fr. 49, 11.13-15 Dillon = Proclus In Tim. 181b-e, II 72, 6, Dillon’s translation: ‘For which reason our vehicle also is made spherical, and is moved in a circle, whenever the Soul is especially assimilated to Mind; for the intellection of the soul and the circular motion of bodies imitates the activity of Mind, even as the ascents and descents of souls motion in a straight line, for these are motions of bodies which are not in their proper places.’ Cf. ibid. 27-29.
- φωτὸς ἀγωγή or φωταγωγία: De myst. III.14 132.7-9, 133.13-134.7. Cf. Damascius Phil. Hist. fr. 75F for what seems to be a similar practice, in which a ‘severe but gentle’ face appears on a wall.
- The pneumatic vehicles of demons and heroes (δαιμόνι α δὲ καὶ τὰ ἡρωϊκὰ αὐτοπτικὰ πνεύματα) appear in direct visions: De myst. II.3
- The soul fully descended, Plotinus is wrong: De anima §§6–7.
- Souls must remain not only souls, but their own kind of soul: In Phaed. fr. 5.
- The ochēma immortal: Iambl. In Tim. fr. 81 = Proclus In Tim. 3.234, 32ff.
Secondary:
- E.C. Clarke, J.M. Dillon, and J.P. Hershbell, editors. Iamblichus on The Mysteries. Society of Biblical Literature, Atlanta, GA, 2003.
- O’Neill 2018 (see below), p. 161.
Recommended Reading:
- Crystal Addey. Divination and Theurgy in Neoplatonism: Oracles of the Gods. Ashgate, Dorchester, 2014.
- Friedrich W. Cremer. Die Chaldäischen Orakel und Iamblich de mysteriis. Anton Hain, Meisenheim am Glan, 1969.
- John Finamore. Iamblichus on Light and the Transparent. In Henry J. Blumenthal and Gillian Clark, editors, The Divine Iamblichus: Philosopher and Man of Gods, pages 55–73. Bristol Classical Press, Bristol, 1993.
- Seamus O’Neill. Evil Demons in the De Mysteriis: Assessing the Iamblichean Critique of Porphyry’s Demonology. In Luc Brisson, Seamus O’Neill, and Andrei Timotin, editors, Neoplatonic Demons and Angels, volume 20 of Studies in Platonism, Neopla- tonism, and the Platonic Tradition, pages 160–89. Brill, Leiden/Boston, MA, 2018.
- Henri Dominique Saffrey and Alain-Philippe Segonds, editors. Jamblique: Réponse à Porphyre (De mysteriis). Les Belles Lettres, Paris, 2018.
- Steel, Carlos G., 1978, The Changing Self, A Study on the Soul in later Neoplatonism: Iamblichus, Damascius and Priscianus (Verhandelingen van de Koninklijke Academie voor Wetenschappen, Letteren en Schone Kunsten van België. Klasse der Letteren 85), Brussel: Paleis der Academiën.
- Andrei Timotin. La démonologie platonicienne. Histoire de la notion du daimōn de Platon aux derniers néoplatoniciens. Number 128 in Philosophia Antiqua. Brill, Leiden/Boston, MA, 2012.
Themes
Angelology, Astrology, daimones, Fate, Iamblichus, Metaphysics, Plotinus, Porphyry, Soul, Spiritual Magic, Subtle Body, Theurgy
Michael IrwinTazzar
March 9, 2022
On the subject of Heroes. As Iamblichus was somewhat interested in Pythagoras then could he have got heroes from the first few verses of the Pythagorean Golden Verses?
Assuming these were actually written before or during Iamblichus’ time, the first few verses could be construed as putting forwards a hierarchy of gods, heroes and cthonic daimons. Each to be honoured in whatever way was deemed lawful for each kind. The verses don’t specify the nature of each, or the lawful means of honouring each, but presumably there’s a whole practice hiding behind those words.
Saeeduddin Ahmed
April 8, 2022
Close to minute 10, when Earl discusses heroes, I couldn’t help thinking of Buddhist bodhisattvas.
In general with all this, I wonder often how Iamblicus (and others) came up with these elaborate systems.
I recently came across an article by a Frederik Van Eeden (reprinted in Charles Tart’s “Altered States of Consciousness” from 1967), written in 1913. Van Eeden describes several types of dreams (nine I believe), one of which he refers to as “mocking”, which he was afraid would “arouse some murmurs of disapproval, or at least some smiles or sneers.” Why? Because he was convinced that phenomena in these dreams were produced by intelligent entities.
Lb Behrendt
August 12, 2023
aha! finally a reference to one of the triads I actually know! (the Berlin Triad within the Bowetic, consisting of The Lowetic– home to sound and vision, The Heroic– home to heroes, and The Lodgic– where boys exist in a constant state of swinging)
Earl Fontainelle
August 12, 2023
Initiates know the significance of the THREE LETTERS: E, N, O.
Lb Behrendt
August 13, 2023
ah… they say only audio cables may enter the innermost sanctums of *those* mysteries