Podcast episode
July 21, 2020
Episode 97: Aron Reppmann Introduces Origen of Alexandria
Origen of Alexandria (c. 184 – c. 253 CE) is both a central figure to Christianity as a whole and to many esoteric currents within Christianity; like a hydra, the powerful ideas of the anathematised Origen pop up again and again in the history of the Churches, to some representing the truest and deepest expression of the religion and to others representing the insidious power of heresy and the seduction of Hellenic philosophy. Professor Aron Reppmann gives an introduction to the life, thought, and esotericism of the great Origen.
We being with the basics of his life; born and educated in Alexandria around the beginning of the third century, Origen studied under Ammonius Saccas, the great Platonist teacher of his day, who also taught Plotinus (unless this was a different Ammonius and a different Origen; see below). We discuss Origen’s journeys, spurred in part at least by troubles with the ecclesiastical hierarchy. Origen was, at first, a lay preacher with no priestly mandate, and even when he was consecrated as a priest at Cæsaria, he seems to have faced serious pressure from above.
We then move on to Origen’s huge body of writings (most of which do not survive, but even the ones which do comprise a serious corpus). These can be categorised as:
- Scriptural text-criticism: Origen was a pioneer of text-critical approaches to scripture. His Hexapla, the ‘Sixfold’, was a colossal work comparing six different textual variants of the Hebrew scriptures (four in Greek translation, including the Septuagint) side-by-side, with a view to getting as close to the unadulterated original as possible, is a monument to unbelievable critical industry. [It is partly lost, but a new critical edition is currently underway at the Hexapla Project].
- Commentaries on scriptures (sadly few of which survive completely): Origen wielded a powerful and highly-creative exegetical mind in his approaches to scripture, drawing on, and arguably surpassing, his forerunner Philo in his ability both to respect the literal, ‘surface’ meaning of scriptural texts and to plumb their depths for esoteric meanings. This body of work made Origen indispensable to the developing church, even as some of his doctrines caused them to reject him.
- Systematic philosophical works: the Περὶ ἀρχῶν, De principiis or On First Principles (known only in Rufinus’ problematic Latin translation) and the Contra Celsum, Against Celsus. These two works are among our most powerful windows on the possibilities of Platonist philosophy (and theological metaphysics in particular) in tandem with the powerful new movement of Christianity. The On First Principles is a masterpiece of speculative theology based in esoteric reading of scripture along Platonist lines. The Contra Celsum is an apologetic (or polemical) defence of Christianity against a traditionally-religious Platonist writer’s attacks; it features in a podcast episode solely devoted to this essential controversy.
The interview then moves on to the controversies surrounding Origen’s thought within Christianity and Origen’s esotericism.
Origen’s troubles with the orthodox establishment started early, as outlined in the biographical part of this interview, but they didn’t end there. The controversies arose for the most part after Origen’s lifetime in the period of the so-called Arian Controversy, when the nascent Orthodox consensus was engaged in a bitter conflict with the tendency, expounded by the prominent theologians Arius and Athanasius of Alexandria, to subordinate Christ to the Father, resulting in a trinity much more in line with Platonist hierarchic emanationist metaphysics than the ‘three-in-one’ trinitarian theology of the Nicene Creed. In particular, he held a number of doctrines which Orthodoxy would find it very difficult to deal with:
- Apokatastasis: The remaking and redemption of all things, for Origen, must surely include even the most evil of entities; the devil himself would, in the end, be redeemed.
- Metensomatosis: Origen’s term for the more normal ‘metempsychosis’; like many early Christians (and like Philo and Clement before him), Origen held that souls, being powerful entities bearing the divine image within them, must reincarnate, so that their journey toward God could be carried out diachronically. The process of salvation of all things cannot fit within a single lifetime.
- Pre-existence of souls: If a soul is truly immortal, it must have eternity in ‘both directions’ – that is, souls cannot simply be created by God every time a lady gets pregnant (which is basically the Orthodox dogma), but must pre-exist from eternity.
- Origen’s logos-theory: Like Philo, Origen’s idea of the logos is something like a ‘first Mind’ of God – but it is also of course Christ. This logos-theory led to many problems in the era of the Arian Controversy, alluded to above, at which time any subordination of the logos to the Father became a serious ideological problem for Orthodoxy.
Turning to Origen’s esotericism, Professor Reppmann expounds two interlinked themes found in Origen’s works, in the ‘Letter to Gregory’ in particular: Origen’s apophatic theology and his esoteric hermeneutics of scripture, through which this theology is drawn out from the scriptural texts under examination.
As a special bonus, we discuss the ‘problem of the two Origens’. We know from Porphyry’s Life of Plotinus that the great third-century sage Plotinus had several important fellow-students during his time studying with Ammonius Saccas at Alexandria; one of these was named Origen. Professor Reppmann (and your humble host) take at face-value the testimony of Porphyry, particularly in the fragments of his Against the Christians preserved by Eusebius, that this Origen who knew Plotinus was our Origen, the same Origen who wrote On First Principles and so many more important works of Christian Platonism. But there is much controversy here: many scholars argue that there must have been two Origens (and two Ammoniuses, for that matter), one Origen the Platonist and one Origen the Christian. We discuss why this extra Origen has (maybe) been invented, and what this invention says about our need for intellectual ‘purity’ in our sources.
Interview Bio:
Aron Reppmann is Professor of Philosophy at Trinity Christian College in Illinois. He publishes and teaches in the liminal space where Plato’s thought and early Christianity mingle.
Works Cited in this Episode:
Primary:
Gregory the Wonder Worker’s Address – a biographical account of his teacher Origen – and Origen’s letter to Gregory can both be found in Migne’s Patrologia Græca Vol. 10. A critical edition with translation of Gregory’s Address can be found in:
- Henri Crouzel, editor. Remerciement à Origène, suivi de la Lettre d’Origène à Grégoire. Number 148 in Sources chrétiennes. Cerf, Paris, 1969.
An English version can be found at:
- The Fathers of the Church, vol. 98. Ed. and tr. Michael Slusser. Catholic University of America Press, 1998.
Secondary:
- Henri Crouzel on Origen’s ‘research theology’: see Crouzel, 1989 below.
Recommended Reading:
A number of Origen’s works can be found in various forms online, as kindly collected by John Übersax on his website.
On Origen’s Life and Thought:
- Henri Crouzel. Origen: The Life and Thought of the First Great Theologian. Harper and Row, San Francisco, CA, 1989.
- J. Dillon. ‘The Knowledge of God in Origen’. In R. van den Broek, T. Baarda, and J. Mansfield, editors, Knowledge of God in the Greco-Roman World, pages 219–28. Brill, Leiden, 1988.
- Justin M. Rogers. ‘Origen in the Likeness of Philo: Eusebius of Cæsaria’s Portrait of the Model Scholar’. SCJR, 12(1):1–13, 2017.
- Ilaria L.E. Ramelli. ‘Origen, Patristic Philosophy, and Christian Platonism: Re-Thinking the Christianisation of Hellenism’. Vigiliæ Christianæ, 63(3):217–63, 2009.
- J. Rist. Eros and Psyche: Studies in Plato, Plotinus, and Origen. University of Toronto Press, Toronto, 1964
- J.W. Trigg. ‘God’s Marvelous Oikonomia: Reflections on Origen’s Understanding of Divine and Human Pedagogy in the Address Ascribed to Gregory Thaumaturgus’. Journal of Early Christian Studies, 9(1):27 – 52, Spring 2001.
On the Question of ‘the two Origens’:
- Ilaria L.E. Ramelli. Origen and the Platonic Tradition. Religions, 8(21), 2017. [this article addresses the ‘two Origens’ thesis, coming down strongly on the side of ‘one Origen’].
Themes
Apophatic Writing, Esoteric Hermeneutics, Late Platonism, Origen of Alexandria, Philo of Alexandria, Plotinus, Porphyry
Bernie Lewin
July 31, 2020
My interest was sparked when Aron spoke of two types of creation, the first called ‘noetic’ and the other call something like (?) ‘physical’.
It seems that with Origen these are in temporal succession. In Plato, I find them as two completely different modes of thought, with the noetic undoubtedly the higher. (For me, the noetic creation is an account of the formal way by which the mind’s eye generates difference, and so its actual universe, from its experience out of the original unity of its being. Physical cosmogony is a construction within that universe.)
In Plato and early Platonism the formal emanation from the monad by logos/dyad predominates, while later the physical cosmogony in Timaeus prevailed in medieval Christianity, with the noetic creation (now a theogony) completely off-limits due to the endless Arian controversy.
Prior to Nicea, I don’t remember ever seeing the difference between these two “creations” explicitly discuss. I’m not so interested in all those endless hierarchies of angelic realms, but I have often thought there might be some discussed in Christian Platonism when comparing what is going on in the Prologue of John with Genesis I.
I would have expected to find this in Augustine. Instead, (as I remember) his Platonic formalism is shoehorned into an interpretation of Genesis; and Leibniz, with his image of ‘Dyadic’ creation, follows suit. That the formal emanation could not be discussed as interpretation of John is the great tragedy of our tradition that is the Arian Controversy.
But again, what about before Nicea? I find Origen difficult to navigate in the various translations, and I worry about Trinitarian interpolations in some of the old selections I have read. So, if you can point to where Origen (or others) are found discussing the difference between noetic and physical creation, then that would be much appreciated.
Aron Reppmann
August 6, 2020
Bernie, thank you for this profound set of comments and questions. You’ve touched on a crucial ambiguity that I believe lies at the very heart of Origen’s project — as reflected in the impossibility of offering a simple, satisfactory English translation of “Peri archwn.” Fundamental principles, or first beginnings? Yes to both, and neither one simply or exclusively.
One key passage in Origen that bears on these issues is De principiis 2.9. Both of the scriptural texts you mentioned (Genesis 1 and the prologue of John) come in for discussion here, as well as other key texts for a Christian thinking-through of creation in Platonic terms (including Wisdom 11:20, I Corinthians 15, Colossians 1, and Psalm 103 [LXX]:24). He discusses both the relation of the noetic creation to God and the relation of the “higher” to the “lower” creation (which, borrowing the imagery of Esau and Jacob as discussed by Paul in Romans 9, he calls “the elder” and “the younger” — but note the subversion/reversal here of the presumed hierarchy, both in Paul’s account and in Origen’s use of it).
As far as relative ordering and temporality are concerned, Origen’s biggest concern in this passage is not to distinguish sharply between the higher and lower within creation, but to distinguish them both from the creator: “But since these rational natures, which as we have said above were made in the beginning, were made when they did not previously exist, by this very fact — that they were not, and then they began to exist — they are necessarily changeable and mutable, since whatever power existed in their substance was not in it by nature but was the result of the beneficence of their Maker. What they are, therefore, is neither their own nor eternal, but given by God” (2.9.2, tr. Behr). For all the richness of Origen’s Platonic retrievals in his patterns of thinking, I suspect this insistence on the non-eternity of the noetic cosmos will be a bright-line difference between him and non-Christian Platonists.
You’re also right to point out the difficulties caused by later retrojections onto Origen of Arian-controversy concerns. John Behr, in the introduction to his new translation, discusses very thoughtfully the damaging effects of this in prior modern translations (Koetschau, Butterworth), and works diligently to offer a much fairer representation of Origen’s text.
William Mazdra
October 14, 2024
It occurs on occasions, that these episodes become rather cantankerous in terms of their general disdain for linearity. This episode, I shall offer, is just such an episode. This brilliant conversation and examination of all things [is just such an excursus. I have witness over these last four years of how this episode keeps crossing my path, jist as I have been fortunate enough to have come upon materials cited herein. It’s fascinating really. But now to my main point.
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William Mazdra
October 14, 2024
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